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As we mentioned in our blog post early this month, we were running a little behind schedule as we were still finalising the results of the Second 2016 Review Results. But the wait is officially over! 

Over the past several months, the LEGO Review Board has carefully reviewed 12 fascinating projects that reached 10,000 supporters between May and September 2016, our second review qualification period of 2016. Lise, our Marketing Manager, shares the results:

 

Women of NASA
A big congratulations to 20tauri on becoming the next official LEGO Ideas fan designer! As a science editor and writer, with a strong personal interest for space exploration as well as the history of women in science and engineering, Maia Weinstock’s Women of NASA project was a way for her to celebrate accomplished women in the STEM professions. In particular those who’ve made a big impact through their work at NASA.

We’re really excited to be able to introduce Maia’s Women of NASA set for its inspirational value as well as build and play experience.

 

 

Design, pricing, and availability

We’re still working out the final product design, pricing and availably for the Women of NASA set, so check back on LEGO Ideas in late 2017 or early 2018 for more details.

 

Still considering Voltron - Defender of the Universe

The LEGO Review Board is still considering the Voltron - Defender of the Universe project by len_d69. Our final decision will take a little extra time, and we’ll share an update in the Third 2016 Review Results announcement.

 

 

Next Review Results Summer 2017

The next batch of LEGO Ideas projects are already in review. We’re considering these projects that reached 10,000 supporters between September 2016 and January 2017 as possible future LEGO sets. We’ll share results of the Third 2016 LEGO review period in the summer of 2017.

 

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ElijahMize

1 month ago

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Really, I would be so mad right now if I were the builder of the Veneno or the Landspeeder or the observatory. I'm increasingly disappointed with TLG prioritizing political correctness over creativity. I almost don't want to bother submitting set ideas here just for something like this to get chosen instead.

wgrubbs

1 month ago

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My thoughts exactly.

hanleybrand

1 month ago

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Looking over the other candidates, I can see reasons other than 'political correctness' for why the NASA set won.

Partly, it's the overall cost of most of the other candidates - it looks like the norm was 1.5K-4K pieces, which puts the cost of those sets in the $US75-350 range (depending on additional licensing costs, which would increase the price of half of the sets).

Then you have to look at marketability of the large sets -- how many people would really buy them? -- while simulataneously trying to place each of the sets in a Lego product slot. The UCS speeder was probably one of the easier ones to fit in a slot, maybe along with the modular construction site.

The ones that were coolest (in my opinion) -- the Addams Fam Manse, the Merchants House, Mountain View, Plum Creek -- to various degrees they represent MOC aesthetics that have evolved outside of Lego, Inc. and don't represent the kind of sets they publish in general (Lego sets favor charming abstraction over rich foliage, layered roof techniques, hypertextured walls, etc.) and my guess is that part of their review process is to have a designer redo the build in the company style, and some of the sets just didn't seem that interesting once all the cool building techniques were stripped away.

Plus, to turn your critique of 'political correctness' around to another angle: which sets in the cohort would be most likely to catch the eye of a non-AFOL news editor when they get the press release? Which sets are potential buyers going to hear about from a non-Lego news source and say "oh that's a good gift for [x]"?

When I look at it from that angle, the Women of NASA set is a slam dunk for Lego, Inc. I actually heard this news first from NPR, not from brothers brick, etc - and that's exactly one of the reasons why this set got chosen, not some amorphous "political correctness" on the part of Lego, Inc.

GrimbleLego

1 month ago

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Sigh.
I like the idea and would like to have more of this - but what disappoints me is that this is at the expense of a 'real' Lego set.

I think it's really neat to have minifigs commemorating real individual people. I am not sure whether this has ever been done before (I only know of the Beatles and even they have been minifig-ed as their cartoon representations - not that this makes a difference for the way a minifig looks, but I hope you understand what I mean), but I am sure someone here can enlighten me on this.

I would be very happy if Lego has some kind of project where they release one 'person of the month' as some sort of subscription model - I'd definitely would subscribe to that. I would love to have am official Einstein minifig, Shakespeare minifig or Mary Shelley minifig. Though it would be cool to have it a bit like Google Doodles - going for slightly obscure and often overlooked persons and not doing the 'big names'. (And the women of NASA would fit that group perfectly.)

But that should be separate from the set ideas.

The mini-sets planned for 'Women of NASA' do nothing for me (I will buy the set, but will probably not use the 'dioramas' - and the presentation case looks too much like one of the things people used to pin their butterfly collection into) and I'd rather would have liked the five minifigs (as stand-alone) and some full set(s) as a results of this review, instead of (at the moment) just this 'presentation set'.

So, yes, happy but disappointed...

wgrubbs

1 month ago

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There is actually a Shakespeare minifig. It came in the LEGO Movie minifigure series. Abraham Lincoln was also in that series.

brucenh

1 month ago

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There have been quite a few in addition to some historical figures in the Collectible lines as noted by wgrubbs. There have been various sports figures, like in the NBA line several years ago, and there were some for the World Cup a few years back. Also in the "Steven Spielberg Moviemaker" set there is a fig named "Director" who looks awfully familiar. The Beatles as you mentioned. Also of course there are all of the characters from various movie franchises, where the figs are patterned after the actor who plays that character. Probably others.

AnimE7702

1 month ago

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Who knows, maybe the LEGO Ideas going redesign by add more parts for mini builts like the computers in stead of picture on a flat tiles or little more to the space shuttle?

PiereTess

1 month ago

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I'm quite surprised by the harshness of the reactions to the announcement of the next lego ideas set here. I'd personally would have liked to see the Lovelace and Babbage set chosen but I'm also happy to see the Woman of NASA project coming soon on the shelves. I'll definitely buy this set for my daughter, like I would have bought the science lab set if I had been aware of it at the time. I'm reluctant to pay as much as three times its original value to get it now. I think he lego team very clearly states the reasons to have chosen this set in the video.
I understand the disappointment expressed by those who wanted other sets to be chosen, but this will be a nice entry level set, when lego ideas sets tend to be quite expensive, and for those who find it not challenging enough, well, be creative and integrate it in a larger design of your own.
The Voltron project is impressive but the licence must be difficult to get, given that it must be owned by different companies around the world. I would also question its international appeal, Voltron is well known in the USA and Japan, and maybe in Canada and other countries in Asia, is it as well-known around Europe (it wasn't a success in France where I come from)?
Congratulations to all the creators for reaching the review stage and to Maia for winning. I look forward to getting this set when it's available.

TeraMedia

1 month ago

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Great comment PiereTess. Lego makes sets for a lot of different customer segments. If this one is right for your daughter, and I imagine there are a lot of parents with similar interest, then they have a clear target market.

As for Voltron, the IP was owned by WEP worldwide when the model went into review. WEP even stated once that they one day hoped to have it done in Lego. So we're keeping fingers crossed.

RobenAnne

1 month ago

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Try Bricklink for the science lab 21110 set.

qwakoo

1 month ago

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I would say that this set wouldn't be bad, but why this set when there was already a women of science set?? I agree with you!

PiereTess

1 month ago

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Isn't it owned by Dreamworks now, since they produced the new series? Perhaps Toei Animation and WEP still have partial ownership of the IP. There must also be licensing agreements in place with distributors around the world (France 2 in France, I think) as well as with toy makers such as Bandai. That is probably why Lego cannot commit to producing the set yet. But yes, I cross my fingers as well, it would be an amazing set.

PiereTess

1 month ago

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Thanks for the tip RobenAnne, I'll have a look.

Number51X

1 month ago

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Wow. What an amazingly boring set. Gender has nothing to do with my opinion, this is just uber-dull. At least that Saturn V is coming out. Let's get Voltron done so we can all have faith in this Ideas thing again. This was a big misstep.

M_slug357

1 month ago

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My only disappointment is that you don't really get to build anything substantial. I think it could've been a real knockout if TLG started to combine some of these Ideas together (where applicable&appropriate). In this review period for example, why not combine "Women of NASA" with the "LEGO Observatory"? A great build coupled with a few great female figures from history equals the best of both worlds, in my opinion.
And then for the next review period, why not combine the "vintage tram" with the "1950's Diner" for a better period piece? Granted, the tram is from a different continent, but I'm sure you get the idea!!

Torchpost

2 months ago

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Look at Ada Lovelace. She looks so disappointed.

AnimE7702

2 months ago

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Here the list from all the Lego Ideas sets has all guys in it.
Hayabusa / Ghostbusters 30th Anniversary Ecto-1 / Back to the Future - DeLorean / Beatles Yellow Submarine
Here the list from all the Lego Ideas sets has all girls in it.
Research Institute / Women of NASA
The point is when Lego Ideas made these sets in the past. With all men minifigure sets in it, almost little or no bad things told about it. But, all women.... we (guys) should congratulate the winner project, not complain and bashing words. This is unbelievable!!!

TeraMedia

2 months ago

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I don't think the people complaining have a problem with a set containing only women. After all, a significant portion of the "Friends" sets are exactly that. I think what some people have a problem with - at least one of whom being a female scientist - is that a filter was applied to [the set of people who have worked at NASA], and that filter deliberately excluded all men. Is that filter sexist? Yes, because by definition, anything that discriminates on the basis of gender is by definition sexist. Using your examples, they could have perhaps included Janine Melnitz with the Ecto-1, but she never rode in it. They could have included Jennifer Parker with the BTTF Delorean - which would have made sense for BTTF 2, but she did not ride in it much in the original. And I suppose they could have included Yoko Ono with the Beatles, but to be fair she was not a member of the group or a performer in that song. In each case, the inclusion of those women would have been a stretch. But given that there were a lot of men (and women!) at NASA at the same time as those 5 women, there is a very clear gender-bias filter being applied.

All of that said, not all things that are sexist are bad. Each might be benevolent, benign, or malevolent. Imagine a set that is, "All male elected leaders of the free world". Is that sexist? Yes - it filters out women. Is it benevolent or benign? No, it doesn't really do anything good for anyone, and one could argue that it basically male-washes that set of people and makes it into a Lego set. Now what about "All female elected leaders of the free world". Is that sexist? For the same reason, yes - this time, it filters out men. Is it benevolent? That's where the situation may be a bit different, if we make an assumption that women have more difficulty getting elected to such positions, or it may not, if we make a different assumption. There is no distinguishing factor between male and female leaders other than that they are male or female.

loz8fair

1 month ago

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If somebody creates a set men of nasa, I will complain too. The point is not if the set has women or men (female or male) minifigs. The point is the building experience. And the example that you gave are sets, those aren't bought by me. I like other set, in this review and I will not complain if other project that I'm not supporting had won. But just five minifigs, It sounds like a bad joke.

legomario295

1 month ago

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You missed the point,
we were hoping for a Lego set,
instead we got a battle pack...

smkuntz

2 months ago

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Seems like some good designs are making it to 10,000 then being declined for production, I would like to see Lego start providing a way to purchase some of the "not approved" projects which don't have copyright or other major issues. A few possible ways they could do this without upsetting their traditional their distribution 1) limited release online only sets, 2) a return in some form of the DESIGN byME, 3) a kickstarter style release, whereby the set is only available for purchase for a relatively short period and it only gets produced if enough sets are purchased, this option seems like a win for all involved and lets us start voting with our wallets. I respect lego's right to decide which sets they want to produce and market, especially within their stores, but seems like they're missing some opportunities which wouldn't take them that much effort to bring to market, since they're already taking time to do the review work and could be done with minimal to no marketing support.

TeraMedia

2 months ago

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One thought that occurred to me was that they could incorporate some of the 10k designs that failed review into their Lego Discovery Center and Legoland mini-worlds. A simple plaque or info-sheet could be included next to the thus-incorporated models, and at the end the designer could take the bricks home to keep, or something along those lines.

WipeoutZone

1 month ago

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Kickstarter style? That sounds amazing! You mean like a pledge of money, right? And then if enough people pledge to buy it, they'll produce it?

smkuntz

1 month ago

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Exactly what I was thinking, that way there's almost no risk for lego, enough people want the set it gets produced, not enough people commit within the sales window and they don't offer it. If they could do the DESIGN byME single unit production in the past, I don't see why a minimum of 100 to 1,000 sets wouldn't be workable.

birdsblocks

2 months ago

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In this thread: Dozens of dudes who are losing their ENTIRE MINDS because of a handful of toys depicting ladies doing things. Maybe one day LEGO will release a set of all-male characters. I'm rooting for you.

AnimE7702

2 months ago

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Look at the LEGO Ideas sets in the past ...Hayabusa / Ghostbusters 30th Anniversary Ecto-1 / Back to the Future - DeLorean / Beatles Yellow Submarine. It has all male minifigures in it.

birdsblocks

2 months ago

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What I just did was sarcasm, AnimE7702 :V

birdsblocks

2 months ago

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I'm pretty sure you'll survive the terrible offense that is women doing things in public where you can see it happening, wgrubbs.

hanleybrand

1 month ago

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"[women] already have equal rights, so they can stop making such a fuss about it."

Comments like this are why people keep suggesting that you may have an axe to grind. Just letting you know.

Also, not to be pedantic -- but gender/racial/class/sexuality representation in children's toys isn't really an expression of "rights" as much as an indication of cultural norms, desires and expectations.

birdsblocks

1 month ago

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You should really just go take that chip on your shoulder to twitter where you can be easily muted instead of here on a toy website.